WELSH NATIONAL FLYING CLUB
MESSAC
Messac 13th June 2015
The birds arrived at Messac at 6pm BST today, Friday 12th June and have been fed and watered. The race advisor and convoyer are confident of a liberation tomorrow morning when this page will be updated.
At 6am Saturday there was fog at the racepoint and in the channel with rain in UK. A further update will be given around 9am
The birds arrived at Messac at 6pm BST today, Friday 12th June and have been fed and watered. The race advisor and convoyer are confident of a liberation tomorrow morning when this page will be updated.
At 6am Saturday there was fog at the racepoint and in the channel with rain in UK. A further update will be given around 9am
j newbury 1st open wnfc messac 2015
thursday 11th june and once again the welsh national flying club were basketing again for another adventure across the water into france from the town of messac an average distance of 270 miles.
with a constant flow of members once again having a go ,the allocation of baskets by the w.o.e.combine soon filled up around the principality ,which resulted in the final marking station at pill in newport taking on the task of transhipping all the additional entries into their required crates prior to heading across the bristol channel to hand over to the w.o.england combine for onward travel to the race point
once again there was an uneventful journey south as each stage was highlight on the relevant websites as the lorry travel to portsmouth harbour where the water was topped up and monitored throughout the journey when the convoying team reported back to the uk that the arrived safely on site friday evening at 6pm and after feeding and watering their cargo once again , they and the pigeons settled down for the night confident of liberating the following morning
sat morning and with mist and fog reported on site and across the channel the race advisory committee had no alternative other than to delay the liberation for a few hours ,with the knowledge that reports indicated that this was to clear gradually as the morning went on and with a watchful eye on the low pressure later in the day with rain approaching the southern counties of the uk by mid afternoon we were advised of a liberation update on the situation at approx 10am
10 am ,and with a vast improvement reported on site and along the line of flight we were informed and pleased to hear that the strings were cut at 09.15 and the 3,000plus combination of english and welsh pigeons soon headed off into a light west by south westerly wind , in a tight pack the pigeons were clear of the site and on route north convoying team reporting fine weather through out the journey home with very little wind they were confident that the pigeons would make good time and home before the rain ,
at the home end as preparations were underway , times were circling around as to when the first pigeons would start to appear and with five and half to six hours seeming to be most favourable amongst us just prior to this time , from the west the dark clouds were starting to roll in and accompanied with light misty rain we knew then that the pigeons would have to work through some wet conditions as the valleys began to close in as the visibility began to close in ,we were keen at this stage to hear news of the leading arrival across the bristol channel ,as pigeons started to appear in the bridgewater area shortly after 2pm indicating and hoping that before long sightings and verifications would soon appear on welsh soil
taking top honours after covering 267 miles timing in at 14.59 .45 and clear winner with a vel of 1364.10. is the risca lofts of john newbury timing in a 3yr old gay pied cock of .sheer brothers from wellhampton bloodlines bred down through the kannibal and keas bosua lines crossed with the lee basto willy thas pigeons ,the winning pigeon was sent on roundabout and has been a consistant for this loft scoring many club and federation positions inc 1st club 4th sec newbury ,2nd swindon 3rd ramsgate 4th sec 13th open on behalf of everyone within the wnfc we pass on our congratulations to john on this achievement ,as he says ,its taken a long time in the sport to get this result against such strong competition ,as he thanks fanciers and friends who congratulated him on this performance .and a special thank you to gordon johnson for doing the honours of verifying the winning pigeon on our behalf .shortly after its arrival
we move slightly up the valley for 2nd open to the abertillery loft and partnership of frampton and price timing in a 15.12 and a vel of 1356.89 with a yearling chequer hen flown on the roundabout ,and descending down through their own blend of families cultivated over many years crossed with stock obtained from john and dave stadden from somerset of mark gilbert of windsor pigeons
3rd and 4th we move across to pontypool and the consistent welsh partnership of ronnie scammell and paul peploe timing in two of their arrivals at 15.17.05 and with nothing to split these two it was down to the electronic timing to see which one would take the highest position with both on a vel of 1340.33,first of which is a 2 yr old cheq cock of the old karl herman crossed jan arden cross phil edwards of abertillery flown on the roundabout previous national positions include 3rd wsr national messac ,4th wsr national falaise 21st national fourgeres and 29th nat carentan and at the time of publishing this game pigeon once again scored highly in the recent norte est endre national taking 2nd national beaten by loft mate ,when the partnership once again scored 1st and 2nd wsr national
the partnership 2nd arrival was yet another roundabout cock a dark cheq yearling which is a double grandson of the well known nearly cock which originated from local fanciers john and pat webber and john burgham
so another successful outcome all told,and as a result a few lofts done better on the day at clock checking compared to others ,however birds which were away at night fall seemed to turn in the following morning giving us a low loss count once again ,so congratulations to the successful lofts and the convoying team race controllers and committee of the west of england combine in providing such good racing over the channel once again in 2015
so we move on to the two longest old bird races overt the next few weeks from pau approx 580 miles ( £3.75 per pigeon ) and bergerac 500 miles (£3.25 per pigeon ) and for these we come under the umbrella of the central southern classic for transportation and liberations ,and are hopeful that our good fortune will continue to round off yet another successful old bird season both inland and across the water
Convoyer’s Report:
We arrived at Portsmouth Docks at 2am on Friday and ensured the drinkers had water in them for all birds before turning in for the night. Rose at 5.30am and before boarding the ferry again ensured that drinkers were half-full for the
crossing. On arrival in Caen we again ensured birds had water before them before continuing to Messac where we arrived at about
6.30pm. The birds were fed and watered after settling and we turned in for the night at 11pm. Rose at 5.30am. It was misty/foggy and not suitable for liberation. Consulted with the race advisor and it was agreed that as soon as the mist/fog cleared we should liberate as the route home through France, the channel was fine. Rain in the UK was expected to clear the Combine area except perhaps for the most northerly clubs before the birds were due to arrive home. There was no wind at the race-point. The misty conditions cleared quickly before 9am and we cut the strings, liberating the birds at 9.15am into sunshine and clear visibility.
They cleared immediately with no stragglers which was remarked on by other conveyors on the site. The journey back to Caen
was in lovely weather with little wind. I hope you all had a good race.
Martin Pike
Chief Conveyor
as always ths weeks top positions
1 JNewbury,. 1364.1045:44:45 267,355 W13N01995 £150.00
2 Frampton&Price,. 1356.892 5:57:17 275,795 GB14H43181 £100.00
3 Scammell&Peploe,. 1340.339 6:2:5 275,1335 W13N10933 £75.00 ABCDE £83.25 £158.25
4 Scammell&Peploe,. 1340.339 6:2:5 275,1335 W14N03668 £50.00
5 Durham&george,. 1339.032 6:2:52 276,130 W14N06388 £35.00
6 THawkinsFamily,. 1334.039 5:48:11 263,1610 W11N01021 £35.00
7 Durham&george,. 1330.841 6:5:6 276,130 W14N06389 £25.00
8 Durham&george,. 1330.719 6:5:8 276,130 W13N08555 £25.00 ABC £26.25 £51.25
9 NicholsSon&G.son,. 1326.350 6:6:28 276,303 W13N08418 £20.00 AB £11.25 £31.25
10 Mr&MrsBeresford&son,. 1323.477 5:55:9 267,113 GB14S82246 £20.00
11 SLewis,. 1318.393 6:16:28 282,11 GB14Z62740 £15.00
12 Frampton&Price,. 1317.378 6:8:0 275,795 GB13E35456 £15.00
13 Mr&MrsBeresford&son,. 1314.165 5:57:40 267,113 W13T05633 £10.00
14 WilliamsBrosSon&Burgh,. 1309.569 6:15:59 279,1336 W13N09708 £10.00 AB £3.25 £13.25
15 WilliamsBrosSon&Burgh,. 1308.061 6:16:25 279,1336 W13N09660 £10.00
tom harris
thursday 11th june and once again the welsh national flying club were basketing again for another adventure across the water into france from the town of messac an average distance of 270 miles.
with a constant flow of members once again having a go ,the allocation of baskets by the w.o.e.combine soon filled up around the principality ,which resulted in the final marking station at pill in newport taking on the task of transhipping all the additional entries into their required crates prior to heading across the bristol channel to hand over to the w.o.england combine for onward travel to the race point
once again there was an uneventful journey south as each stage was highlight on the relevant websites as the lorry travel to portsmouth harbour where the water was topped up and monitored throughout the journey when the convoying team reported back to the uk that the arrived safely on site friday evening at 6pm and after feeding and watering their cargo once again , they and the pigeons settled down for the night confident of liberating the following morning
sat morning and with mist and fog reported on site and across the channel the race advisory committee had no alternative other than to delay the liberation for a few hours ,with the knowledge that reports indicated that this was to clear gradually as the morning went on and with a watchful eye on the low pressure later in the day with rain approaching the southern counties of the uk by mid afternoon we were advised of a liberation update on the situation at approx 10am
10 am ,and with a vast improvement reported on site and along the line of flight we were informed and pleased to hear that the strings were cut at 09.15 and the 3,000plus combination of english and welsh pigeons soon headed off into a light west by south westerly wind , in a tight pack the pigeons were clear of the site and on route north convoying team reporting fine weather through out the journey home with very little wind they were confident that the pigeons would make good time and home before the rain ,
at the home end as preparations were underway , times were circling around as to when the first pigeons would start to appear and with five and half to six hours seeming to be most favourable amongst us just prior to this time , from the west the dark clouds were starting to roll in and accompanied with light misty rain we knew then that the pigeons would have to work through some wet conditions as the valleys began to close in as the visibility began to close in ,we were keen at this stage to hear news of the leading arrival across the bristol channel ,as pigeons started to appear in the bridgewater area shortly after 2pm indicating and hoping that before long sightings and verifications would soon appear on welsh soil
taking top honours after covering 267 miles timing in at 14.59 .45 and clear winner with a vel of 1364.10. is the risca lofts of john newbury timing in a 3yr old gay pied cock of .sheer brothers from wellhampton bloodlines bred down through the kannibal and keas bosua lines crossed with the lee basto willy thas pigeons ,the winning pigeon was sent on roundabout and has been a consistant for this loft scoring many club and federation positions inc 1st club 4th sec newbury ,2nd swindon 3rd ramsgate 4th sec 13th open on behalf of everyone within the wnfc we pass on our congratulations to john on this achievement ,as he says ,its taken a long time in the sport to get this result against such strong competition ,as he thanks fanciers and friends who congratulated him on this performance .and a special thank you to gordon johnson for doing the honours of verifying the winning pigeon on our behalf .shortly after its arrival
we move slightly up the valley for 2nd open to the abertillery loft and partnership of frampton and price timing in a 15.12 and a vel of 1356.89 with a yearling chequer hen flown on the roundabout ,and descending down through their own blend of families cultivated over many years crossed with stock obtained from john and dave stadden from somerset of mark gilbert of windsor pigeons
3rd and 4th we move across to pontypool and the consistent welsh partnership of ronnie scammell and paul peploe timing in two of their arrivals at 15.17.05 and with nothing to split these two it was down to the electronic timing to see which one would take the highest position with both on a vel of 1340.33,first of which is a 2 yr old cheq cock of the old karl herman crossed jan arden cross phil edwards of abertillery flown on the roundabout previous national positions include 3rd wsr national messac ,4th wsr national falaise 21st national fourgeres and 29th nat carentan and at the time of publishing this game pigeon once again scored highly in the recent norte est endre national taking 2nd national beaten by loft mate ,when the partnership once again scored 1st and 2nd wsr national
the partnership 2nd arrival was yet another roundabout cock a dark cheq yearling which is a double grandson of the well known nearly cock which originated from local fanciers john and pat webber and john burgham
so another successful outcome all told,and as a result a few lofts done better on the day at clock checking compared to others ,however birds which were away at night fall seemed to turn in the following morning giving us a low loss count once again ,so congratulations to the successful lofts and the convoying team race controllers and committee of the west of england combine in providing such good racing over the channel once again in 2015
so we move on to the two longest old bird races overt the next few weeks from pau approx 580 miles ( £3.75 per pigeon ) and bergerac 500 miles (£3.25 per pigeon ) and for these we come under the umbrella of the central southern classic for transportation and liberations ,and are hopeful that our good fortune will continue to round off yet another successful old bird season both inland and across the water
Convoyer’s Report:
We arrived at Portsmouth Docks at 2am on Friday and ensured the drinkers had water in them for all birds before turning in for the night. Rose at 5.30am and before boarding the ferry again ensured that drinkers were half-full for the
crossing. On arrival in Caen we again ensured birds had water before them before continuing to Messac where we arrived at about
6.30pm. The birds were fed and watered after settling and we turned in for the night at 11pm. Rose at 5.30am. It was misty/foggy and not suitable for liberation. Consulted with the race advisor and it was agreed that as soon as the mist/fog cleared we should liberate as the route home through France, the channel was fine. Rain in the UK was expected to clear the Combine area except perhaps for the most northerly clubs before the birds were due to arrive home. There was no wind at the race-point. The misty conditions cleared quickly before 9am and we cut the strings, liberating the birds at 9.15am into sunshine and clear visibility.
They cleared immediately with no stragglers which was remarked on by other conveyors on the site. The journey back to Caen
was in lovely weather with little wind. I hope you all had a good race.
Martin Pike
Chief Conveyor
as always ths weeks top positions
1 JNewbury,. 1364.1045:44:45 267,355 W13N01995 £150.00
2 Frampton&Price,. 1356.892 5:57:17 275,795 GB14H43181 £100.00
3 Scammell&Peploe,. 1340.339 6:2:5 275,1335 W13N10933 £75.00 ABCDE £83.25 £158.25
4 Scammell&Peploe,. 1340.339 6:2:5 275,1335 W14N03668 £50.00
5 Durham&george,. 1339.032 6:2:52 276,130 W14N06388 £35.00
6 THawkinsFamily,. 1334.039 5:48:11 263,1610 W11N01021 £35.00
7 Durham&george,. 1330.841 6:5:6 276,130 W14N06389 £25.00
8 Durham&george,. 1330.719 6:5:8 276,130 W13N08555 £25.00 ABC £26.25 £51.25
9 NicholsSon&G.son,. 1326.350 6:6:28 276,303 W13N08418 £20.00 AB £11.25 £31.25
10 Mr&MrsBeresford&son,. 1323.477 5:55:9 267,113 GB14S82246 £20.00
11 SLewis,. 1318.393 6:16:28 282,11 GB14Z62740 £15.00
12 Frampton&Price,. 1317.378 6:8:0 275,795 GB13E35456 £15.00
13 Mr&MrsBeresford&son,. 1314.165 5:57:40 267,113 W13T05633 £10.00
14 WilliamsBrosSon&Burgh,. 1309.569 6:15:59 279,1336 W13N09708 £10.00 AB £3.25 £13.25
15 WilliamsBrosSon&Burgh,. 1308.061 6:16:25 279,1336 W13N09660 £10.00
tom harris
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TODAYS EARLY TIMES
PROVISIONAL AND VERIFIED AS POTENTIAL WINNER
J NEWBURY 14.59.45 VEL 1364.10
SUBJECT TO ALL USUAL CHECKS
... HAWKINS FAMILY 15.03.11 ..... MR & MRS BERESFORD 15.10.09 .....FRAMPTON & PRICE 15.12.17 .....SCRAMELL & PEPLOE 15.17.05 .... G POYNER 15.18.10 ...J GARDENER 15.18.44 ... NICHOLES SON AND GRANDSON 15.21.28 ....MEL MAYO 15.24.53 ... A KIDD 15.15.21 .... PICTON BROS AND SON 15.35.00 .... DURHAM & GEORGE 15.17.52 .... MR & MRS HARRIS & DAUGHTER 15.16.44 ..... D THOMAS 15.30.53 .... HALL & MACULLAM 15.25.22 .... I DAVIES 15.37.12 .... R LAMBERT 15.39.08 .... WILLIAMS BROS SON AND BURGHAM 15.30.59 .... R POYNER 15.54.31 .... PADFIELD FAMILY 16.03.42 .... J WOOD 15.35.37 .... W HOLPIN 15.58.18 ..... MR & MRS MATTHEWS 15.44.07 .... M J BURRIDGE & SON 16.18.07 .... M & J HUGHES 16.04.27 .... MR & MRS BROMLEY 15.58.25 .... S LEWIS 15.31.28 .... D TIPPINGS 16.11.32 .... D SEARGENT & SON 15.15.32 .... MR & MRS RUSSELL 16.41.29 .... W A REES 16.36.17
WILLIAMS AND OWEN DISQUALIFIED FOR BREACH OF RACE RULE
2.11 MEMBERS MUST PHONE IN AND VERIFY THEIR FIRST ARRIVAL WITHIN ONE HOUR OF TIMING IN ,WHEN MEMBERS FAIL TO RECORD AN ARRVAL ON THE DAY OF LIBERATION ,PIGEONS TIMED IN THROUGH OUT THE FOLLOWING DAYS PRIOR TO 5PM (1700 HRS) NEED TO BE VERIFIED BY 6PM (1800HRS) PIGEONS TIMED IN AFTER 5PM (1700 HRS) THEN THE ONE HOUR RULE IS IMPLEMENTED
PIGEON RECORDED 15.46.53 VERIFIED AT 16.49
PROVISIONAL AND VERIFIED AS POTENTIAL WINNER
J NEWBURY 14.59.45 VEL 1364.10
SUBJECT TO ALL USUAL CHECKS
... HAWKINS FAMILY 15.03.11 ..... MR & MRS BERESFORD 15.10.09 .....FRAMPTON & PRICE 15.12.17 .....SCRAMELL & PEPLOE 15.17.05 .... G POYNER 15.18.10 ...J GARDENER 15.18.44 ... NICHOLES SON AND GRANDSON 15.21.28 ....MEL MAYO 15.24.53 ... A KIDD 15.15.21 .... PICTON BROS AND SON 15.35.00 .... DURHAM & GEORGE 15.17.52 .... MR & MRS HARRIS & DAUGHTER 15.16.44 ..... D THOMAS 15.30.53 .... HALL & MACULLAM 15.25.22 .... I DAVIES 15.37.12 .... R LAMBERT 15.39.08 .... WILLIAMS BROS SON AND BURGHAM 15.30.59 .... R POYNER 15.54.31 .... PADFIELD FAMILY 16.03.42 .... J WOOD 15.35.37 .... W HOLPIN 15.58.18 ..... MR & MRS MATTHEWS 15.44.07 .... M J BURRIDGE & SON 16.18.07 .... M & J HUGHES 16.04.27 .... MR & MRS BROMLEY 15.58.25 .... S LEWIS 15.31.28 .... D TIPPINGS 16.11.32 .... D SEARGENT & SON 15.15.32 .... MR & MRS RUSSELL 16.41.29 .... W A REES 16.36.17
WILLIAMS AND OWEN DISQUALIFIED FOR BREACH OF RACE RULE
2.11 MEMBERS MUST PHONE IN AND VERIFY THEIR FIRST ARRIVAL WITHIN ONE HOUR OF TIMING IN ,WHEN MEMBERS FAIL TO RECORD AN ARRVAL ON THE DAY OF LIBERATION ,PIGEONS TIMED IN THROUGH OUT THE FOLLOWING DAYS PRIOR TO 5PM (1700 HRS) NEED TO BE VERIFIED BY 6PM (1800HRS) PIGEONS TIMED IN AFTER 5PM (1700 HRS) THEN THE ONE HOUR RULE IS IMPLEMENTED
PIGEON RECORDED 15.46.53 VERIFIED AT 16.49
